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Title: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: Dave2 on May 13, 2012, 02:32:29 PM
From another post the trent hills tax sale that the pro's have yet to find is here.

http://www.trenthills.ca/en/services/resources/June132012TaxSalePackage2.pdf

Without getting into the specifics of individual properties, there is one general risk that affects a lot of those offered for tax sale I want to give people a heads up on. The risk of flooding.

Personally I believe it much higher then normal for some of these properties because of some factors up stream in the Kawartha lakes / Trent river systems.

Upstream  the height of land is Balsam lake and the last natural lake other then river widenings
is Rice lake.  So in effect we have a large drainage area feeding into a river.  

The problem is at Campbellford where if you drive through the town from the south you will note that the trent canal / river is above the town land in the center including to the east where the municipal offices are.  Thus in a year with high river flows the desire is to get the water through Campbellford and further downstream quickly.  

There are lots of dams in Campbellford so all you do is open the dams.
Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: tyerant on July 04, 2012, 09:19:12 PM
Looked at the results today... Looks like you purchased a waterfront lot...  Must not have been too worried?

What are you going to do with it?
Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: Dave2 on July 05, 2012, 12:33:29 PM
Looked at the results today... Looks like you purchased a waterfront lot...  Must not have been too worried? What are you going to do with it?  

Tyerant:

Simple answer: specialty use and maybe one of a kind property.  In fact so specialized in land registry it had no legal owner in land titles which is why I needed a tax sale to be able to buy it.  ;)

I can appreciate why you are really confused because if you check the typographical maps you will find that this is the type of property that is mostly flooded year round and is usually only occupied by birds that say "quack quack".   ;D

The key is the first rule of real estate; location location location. Normally little marshes (5 acres) like this have no real value.  However this one happens to be right across the river from what is called the Murray Marsh conservation area and about 1.5 hours drive from Hogtown.  

Quoting from the lower Trent conservation Authority.

Murray Marsh is the largest and most complete tract of undisturbed marsh and swamp forest remaining in southeastern Ontario.  Encompassing 10,000 acres, Murray Marsh is classified as a provincially significant wetland and is of regional significance for wildlife.  The marsh provides nesting and feeding sites for over 100 bird species.  This marsh is the only major flood water storage for the Trent River system south of Campbellford.  It serves as a giant filtration system for nutrients,  
Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: Ronster on July 05, 2012, 09:38:35 PM
Prime migratory game bird hunting location... possible hunting lease opportunities?  I am curious as to what the leasing values might be... that is if you are don't mind sharing?
Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: ruok on July 06, 2012, 02:00:24 PM
Ronster:Hunters are typically not willing to pay top dollar to hunt migratory birds. Guides or outfitters are usually the best option as they know the potential if they can use the land for their clients on a regular basis.
Leasing fields to guides for goose hunting can be a little more lucrative.
Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: Dave2 on July 16, 2012, 03:51:56 PM
Ronster:Hunters are typically not willing to pay top dollar to hunt migratory birds. Guides or outfitters are usually the best option as they know the potential if they can use the land for their clients on a regular basis.
Leasing fields to guides for goose hunting can be a little more lucrative.

Guys:

Bottom line is we don't know and it will be a couple years before I get enough experience to see if it is worthwhile to try again or listen to my boss's comments about my stupidity for the rest of my life.  >:(

In the interim it is too bad I cann't own the water in front of the property.  (see photo)

Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: ruok on July 16, 2012, 08:16:39 PM
That fish looks like gold to me  It's a beauty!!!!
Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: tyerant on January 24, 2013, 03:35:45 AM
Good luck Dave...

I know land owners real close. Almost next door to this property.  However, they still hunt north of 7.  You would have to ask yourself why not hunt close to home?  Oh well, Fishing is fantastic!  And a lot less problematic (Bang Bang). They all fish regularly near by all year long... BUT, without accommodations close... like I said, good luck with your endeavors.

Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: Dave2 on January 24, 2013, 08:48:48 AM
Good luck Dave...

I know land owners real close. Almost next door to this property.  However, they still hunt north of 7.  You would have to ask yourself why not hunt close to home?  Oh well, Fishing is fantastic!  And a lot less problematic (Bang Bang). They all fish regularly near by all year long... BUT, without accommodations close... like I said, good luck with your endeavors.  

Tyerant:

North of highway 7 different type of hunting.  This is waterfowl hunting pure and simple and is an underutilized resource in my opinion.  Everyone thinks you have to travel great distances to have good hunting.  I agree fishing is great and I think only person on the board other then you who knows it is PFM 1011, who when he returns from sunny south will probably weigh in.  Much better then Rice Lake.

Until I can sort out the title issues caused by the devient road allowance I am pretty well prevented from offering it for sale.  Which direction is your friend from the property (north east?)  as I was thinking of checking with one of the neighbours.

Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk - Poor Beer
Post by: netpred on January 31, 2013, 11:58:59 PM
I was passing by Cobourg today and thought that I would pick up some winnings from Dave (as in liquid form). It turns out that Dave was in Colbourne and invited me for a "beer" at an "Irish Pub". Well, no Kilkenny, no Caffrey's, no Harp, no Smithwicks. Irish Pub my a$$. Oh well, the price was right.

After I was able to draw Dave's attention away from the waitress, the discussion focused on this property. This one is a real dog's breakfast. For starters, I don't understand how a property was first converyed without a Crown Patent. Second, the original surveyor seemed to have made a rather big mistake and then simply veered the road allowance to compensate for the error. Third, the federal government may actiually own this land and that raises an interesting constitutional issue in terms of jurisdiction over this property. There are other issues. The actual road follows neither the correct road allowance nor the deviated allowance. It may fall in part on Dave's property. Of course Dave's property may actually be elsewhere as suggested by an R-Plan.

Several morals to this story.

Can't get good beer in Colbourne.  :(

Dave's wife will leave him after this disaster.  :(

Even if you are experienced in tax sales and do everything right, you can get burned on tax sales!  >:(
Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: ErnestBidder on February 01, 2013, 12:56:13 AM
  You can get good beer in Colbourne, but you have to know the guy who boils down the mash!  AND, if Dave's wife leaves him, can you arrange for me to meet her? After the many writings in which he has told tales, I am more than curious.

  :>))
Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: netpred on February 02, 2013, 01:02:05 AM
Dave:

Yes, I travelled through blizzard conditions - but not for a beer. The beer was nice, but it takes a lot more than that to get me to drive 6 hours in the middle of winter.  ;D

Sorry, no other information - at least not free information!
Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: tyerant on February 05, 2013, 03:16:17 AM
Good luck Dave...

I know land owners real close. Almost next door to this property.  However, they still hunt north of 7.  You would have to ask yourself why not hunt close to home?  Oh well, Fishing is fantastic!  And a lot less problematic (Bang Bang). They all fish regularly near by all year long... BUT, without accommodations close... like I said, good luck with your endeavors.  

Tyerant:

North of highway 7 different type of hunting.  This is waterfowl hunting pure and simple and is an underutilized resource in my opinion.  Everyone thinks you have to travel great distances to have good hunting.  I agree fishing is great and I think only person on the board other then you who knows it is PFM 1011, who when he returns from sunny south will probably weigh in.  Much better then Rice Lake.

Well I do not know the people from the trailer park next door but do know a few folks in ear shot...BOOM BOOM... Good luck.  North of 7 = less populated, and more crown land nearby.  

BTW...  I am curious what lower Trent and other conservation agencies will have to say about what ever you wish to do with this property.  You did mentioned it's significance related to migratory birds... Good Luck again...  I suggest you market to bird watchers...

These properties do have value but probably not to the entrepreneur.  Do you wish to tell what happens with these types of properties after they are vested?  Particularly those that are environmentally sensitive or provincial significant?  Ahh but what do I know... I am a newby.

I just can't get over the issue that you warn people away and then toot your horn about buying the very property(s) you warn against.

Am I a green peacer or a disgruntled local (long time)?... no...  It just bothered me that you dished out some fear and then possibly took advantage of it.

I am just growing tired of the innuendo and self professed knowledge you google up... Please stick to your true knowledge, wisdom and facts.  It is valued... I have to admit, you do have a lot of valuable info to offer...

Trent Hills is a nice area and I have grown tired of your innuendos and inferences.

Hope this does not get me kick off the board... Took me all this time to live up to my username...

P.S. Dave, No ill will.  Just want to know where you are coming from... I have limited (2-3yrs) knowledge of this area but am willing to share what I know with all.
Thanks
  




 
Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: bobs on February 05, 2013, 03:47:55 AM
KUDOOS to you "Tyerant"

I am on the same page as you.  I am getting a little sick and tired of the b***sh*t rants on this site.  Get to the point, make it simple, and don't make me waste my time reading a post that goes on and on about nothing but keeps you reading in case you miss something.  I could care less about the local bar you met to have beers in!!

Don't get me wrong, there are many people on here that have an amazing amount of knowledge and I appreciate it.  Just get to the point, time is short.
Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: DRD on February 05, 2013, 05:01:51 AM
Tyerant

 I give you karma for saying what you think

Cheers

Doug
Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: netpred on February 05, 2013, 01:08:05 PM
I was going to ignore this, but I can't.

The one thing that always impressed me about this site was the cordiality and politeness. Nearly every other board I frequent is characterized by negative comments. Let's move on.

That's all.
Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: tyerant on February 05, 2013, 11:02:30 PM
I was going to ignore this, but I can't.

The one thing that always impressed me about this site was the cordiality and politeness. Nearly every other board I frequent is characterized by negative comments. Let's move on.

That's all.

I guess I may have been a bit harsh...
I edited my post to soften it a bit.  Not trying to be negative. Just to point out some inconsistencies I have noticed in the hopes of having future posts void of inferences and innuendo that is unfounded.

I guess my comments manifested themselves in thread but also relate to other posts I have read... I was not referring to banter that went back and forth...  Although, it does get excessive at times.  Just what I said above, unfounded inferences and innuendo related to this area in several posts I have read.

I wish Dave luck with this property and hope he does well with it.

I have said my peace and am moving on. I am off to build my Ark :)
Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: ErnestBidder on February 06, 2013, 05:13:21 AM
  Well, fellows, there is a difference between trying to scare off potential bidders, and warning them to do their due diligence. If you don't like reading the banter between friendly competitors, scan over it quickly & go on to the next. No reason to get all harsh, unless it's jealousy about the beer bets  :>))
Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: Dave2 on February 08, 2013, 06:08:12 PM
Tyerant:

I wanted to respond to your post; but after getting some official word from the city on a couple of issues and sending it to you by PM out of courtesy, before posting. Bylaw officers have more urgent things to do, then answer a general hunting regulation question so they take a couple of days to respond.  

1. First I guess I did not realize what I thought started out as social hobbyist group now is becoming the domain of more business oriented serious investors who desire more crisp business communication.  Given Wiarton Willie's forecast of an early spring it is an easy task to clean up old posts and remove out of date socially oriented banter like a spring cleaning which I will do (especially if it helps me getting out of some shoveling on the biggest snowstorm in 5 years).  

2.  Turning to your other comments; the tax sale( http://www.trenthills.ca/en/services/resources/June132012TaxSalePackage2.pdf ) like many has several (actually 7) properties for sale and my comment about flooding was directed at a couple of properties on Izumi Way (see number 2 and 3) on the tax sale and not the Catchmore road one, which I thought it would be obvious to anyone who looked, was going to prone to flooding in any case because of the nature of the property. (see local news paper posting from a couple of years ago http://www.communitypress.ca/2010/01/27/flooding-minimal-but-trent-hills-was-prepared-for-the-worst)  

I did not bid on the properties on Izumi way as a result.  

Similarly the other waterfront property on the tax sale (7) on the Crowe River  is upstream not downstream of Campbellford.

The warning was (is) real and is intended to give a due diligence heads up for potential buyers in accordance with normal practice of this board   Yes I did not tell people precisely which properties were most at risk because I expect them to do their homework. On tax sale properties people have different uses for property and I will not always tell people which ones precisely to avoid, just as I do not tell them which ones and at what level I will personally bid on.  

There are other hunters on this board who have similar uses for flooded land and I am never certain what the motives of individual bidders are for an individual piece of property.  On the Catchmore road property; duck hunters actually like more flooding rather then less and as a result it makes it more valuable to them rather then less valuable as in most cases.

3. Regarding your comments about hunting in general, in Trent Hills like most of rural Ontario hunting is a permitted recreational use; if you have the permission of the landowner; which is not an issue if you own the land. As you saw in the email copy I forwarded to you there is no municipal or conservation authority hunting bylaw. Like bird watching or fishing on private land; which this has been for 150 years, it is an allowed use, as long as you meet the regulations by the Provincial Ministry of Natural Resources.    
At Catchmore Road we are several hundred yards from the nearest residence and shotgun pellets carry a maximum of a hundred yards.  My neighbour to the north east hunts locally to protect his sheep from the local coyotes.  

  
  
Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: ErnestBidder on February 08, 2013, 07:39:31 PM
  Dave2, I hope you do not do any spring cleaning. The social banter is part & parcel of the charm of this board; a few members have, from time to time, found that their watch was wound a little too tightly on a particular day, but their momentary mistep has not led to any major confrontations. Any new member should take the time to go through ALL the postings, and the removal of old social postings would change the perceived flavour of this board. I feel it would be detrimental.
Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: Rob on February 08, 2013, 09:16:54 PM
This site has always encouraged people to post long posts about anything they feel is related to their tax sale property experience.  That includes posting about having a beer at the local bar in the town they just visited, the long ride to visit the property, the nagging wife/husband who doesn't understand why you would want to spend so much on the property.

To trying encourage everyone to reduce their posts to nothing more than pieces of facts goes against the spirit of the board and missing the entire point of the tax sale experience. 

Having to respond to your negative post wastes my time.

KUDOOS to you "Tyerant"

I am on the same page as you.  I am getting a little sick and tired of the b***sh*t rants on this site.  Get to the point, make it simple, and don't make me waste my time reading a post that goes on and on about nothing but keeps you reading in case you miss something.  I could care less about the local bar you met to have beers in!!

Don't get me wrong, there are many people on here that have an amazing amount of knowledge and I appreciate it.  Just get to the point, time is short.
Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: Frank on February 08, 2013, 09:58:42 PM
Thanks Rob

I for one have thoroughly enjoyed the banter, and I have learned a lot along the way.  A long time ago when I spoke to you about joining the board, and offering to add some hopefully insiteful information based on my experience, we agreed that this would also be a fun board. 

If all I wanted to do was give people advice I would hand up a shingle and charge them an exhorbitant fee as a consultant, not my cup of tea.  8)
Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: 26.2 on February 08, 2013, 10:09:22 PM
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The one thing that always impressed me about this site was the cordiality and politeness.
Unfortunately not always true especially if you happen to be a real estate agent. However I am sure Netpred is right that this site is better than most.

Someone on this site wisely said
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Free advice  worth every penny you paid.   Always check out what people say. If you are interested in a piece of land and someone says its actually swamp, Dont take it as gospel but keep it in mind
Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: bobs on February 08, 2013, 10:58:43 PM
It is very obvious I have hit a nerve with this and it is clear by your continuous posts about it.  I still stand by it and I bet the majority of people on this site do as well.  Just the vocal few that "control" the site do not.


KUDOOS to you "Tyerant"

I am on the same page as you.  I am getting a little sick and tired of the b***sh*t rants on this site.  Get to the point, make it simple, and don't make me waste my time reading a post that goes on and on about nothing but keeps you reading in case you miss something.  I could care less about the local bar you met to have beers in!!

Don't get me wrong, there are many people on here that have an amazing amount of knowledge and I appreciate it.  Just get to the point, time is short.
Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: netpred on February 08, 2013, 11:28:02 PM
It is very obvious I have hit a nerve with this and it is clear by your continuous posts about it.  I still stand by it and I bet the majority of people on this site do as well.  Just the vocal few that "control" the site do not.

I'll bet you beer that they don't.  ;D
Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: bobs on February 09, 2013, 12:29:53 AM
I would, but then I would be no better then others babbling on about drinking beer. 
Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: Rob on February 09, 2013, 12:44:06 AM
Banned for two weeks.  These types of negative posts are not acceptable.

It is very obvious I have hit a nerve with this and it is clear by your continuous posts about it.  I still stand by it and I bet the majority of people on this site do as well.  Just the vocal few that "control" the site do not.


KUDOOS to you "Tyerant"

I am on the same page as you.  I am getting a little sick and tired of the b***sh*t rants on this site.  Get to the point, make it simple, and don't make me waste my time reading a post that goes on and on about nothing but keeps you reading in case you miss something.  I could care less about the local bar you met to have beers in!!

Don't get me wrong, there are many people on here that have an amazing amount of knowledge and I appreciate it.  Just get to the point, time is short.
Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: 26.2 on February 09, 2013, 01:03:40 AM
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It is very obvious I have hit a nerve with this and it is clear by your continuous posts about it.  I still stand by it and I bet the majority of people on this site do as well.  Just the vocal few that "control" the site do not.

 I am thinking you are giving yourself too much credit here.

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Just the vocal few that "control" the site do not.

The vocal few are the ones that are contributing...not controlling. Do some research and contribute in two weeks.
Cheers!
Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: g2020 on February 09, 2013, 01:11:56 AM
I suspect that the thousand or so regular viewers of this site are smart enough to skim by anything that does not interest them. As far as I know Tax Sales are just a hobby for all of the regular posters. They have a little fun, make a little money, and help each other out, a little. Make that, a lot. I for one have learned a lot from this board, especially pfm1011, and I was buying tax sale property before many of you were born.
The Uxbridge property attracted 27 bids yesterday so a really nice property would probably top 100. To compete in such a crowded space you need all the help that you can get. I see a lot of sharing of information between the regular posters since Rob has provided such a great private message facility. I have seen some great ideas regarding sharing of search fees and other costs posted recently. If the posters want to have a little fun, albeit not as to-the-point as some would like it, then fine.
Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: ChrisCentral on February 09, 2013, 02:35:31 AM
Keep the beer banter - loose the negativity!

As others have said if you don't like it don't look.
Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: LarasDad on February 09, 2013, 12:43:19 PM
I suspect that the thousand or so regular viewers of this site are smart enough to skim by anything that does not interest them. As far as I know Tax Sales are just a hobby for all of the regular posters. They have a little fun, make a little money, and help each other out, a little. Make that, a lot. I for one have learned a lot from this board, especially pfm1011, and I was buying tax sale property before many of you were born.
The Uxbridge property attracted 27 bids yesterday so a really nice property would probably top 100. To compete in such a crowded space you need all the help that you can get. I see a lot of sharing of information between the regular posters since Rob has provided such a great private message facility. I have seen some great ideas regarding sharing of search fees and other costs posted recently. If the posters want to have a little fun, albeit not as to-the-point as some would like it, then fine.

I'll second, third and fourth that  ;D

Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: Dave2 on February 09, 2013, 05:48:20 PM

Given Wiarton Willie's forecast of an early spring it is an easy task to clean up old posts and remove out of date socially oriented banter like a spring cleaning which I will do.  

2.  Turning to your other comments; the tax sale( http://www.trenthills.ca/en/services/resources/June132012TaxSalePackage2.pdf ) like many has several (actually 7) properties for sale and my comment about flooding was directed at a couple of properties on Izumi Way (see number 2 and 3) on the tax sale and not the Catchmore road one.  

Rob:

Who would have believed that a piece of property that most readers of this board would consider worthless would cause such a brouha.  
 
There is a midpoint here and I for one believe we have a number of issues raised by Tyerant's  and other posts that should / will be addressed; but all in good time.  

1. Note I said a spring cleaning of older social posts so that they focus more on some of the critical technical points is probably not a bad idea if done in moderation.  Especially if they help a reader more efficiently deal with an uncommon issue like an owner occupied dwelling or whatever.

I don't think the board will greatly suffer if a write-up of two year old beer bet with Netpred is slimmed down or eliminated.

2. I am more concerned about a couple of inferences about property quality or use some of which I have PM-d Tyerant about because I feel I don't understand the point expressed fully.  I have even offered to meet face to face because I have some interesting perspectives on this title issue I blundered into.

This potentially could be a very serious issue for some other property owners well outside the imediate area as the same issue that caught me by surprise affects several other concessions in the area.    Its one of those issues that was not necessarily addressed by the rushed conversion to land titles will soon be a a known issue in professional circles and can affect closings.  

3. The  biggest concern about the Izumi way issue that I have is the potential cost increase on construction costs even if you were able
to get a building permit.  A number of similar properties on Wilson island
have had to raise their septic bed by several feet and mount a dwelling on stilts by driving in piles.  This is not aparent from a google map or by looking at older dwellings from 30 -40 years ago.  I could see $30,00 - $40,000 in added costs to a standard dwelling very easily and thus your cheap lot is suddenly much more expensive then expected.

I reccommend we get back to regular business while I wait to see if Tyerant wants to meet or not. 
  

Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: ErnestBidder on February 09, 2013, 06:15:16 PM
 But, Dave2, some of us are keeping score of the betting going on. So far, the wagers have been beer, timbits, and $$$(in a roundabout fashion, and, perehaps, not too serious a bet). It's been a long time since the timbit wager result hit the board, but it may resurrect. I'm keeping an eye out to see if there's any more discussion on the $$$. If the wagering members cross paths, the two may merge into the old "dollars to doughnuts", but so far the wagering has been battles of the titans.
Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: Rob on February 09, 2013, 07:06:21 PM
Dave2

Everyone is free to delete, or change old past posts.  But I would hate to lose the character of those older posts.  For a new person just coming to the site reading those.. I think it gives an accurate impression that people here are friendly with each other, some may even get together once in a while for a beer.



"Who would have believed that a piece of property that most readers of this board would consider worthless would cause such a brouha."

The property and the discussion had nothing to do with the broucha.  This is a heated topic but everyone is showing each other respect.  This could have happened on any topic.

What Bobs did was trolling (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29), then directly challenging and then trolling someone else.



Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: tyerant on February 10, 2013, 11:27:30 PM
Dave2,

I thought we got everything straitened out via private messages and thought that we were on the level...  No ill will, just a misunderstanding...

I hate to see folks that were as frustrated as I was and get banned for supporting me. Rob, Please re consider.

Dave2
In our private messages I though that I made myself clear that a few other posts bothered me and that is why I went "tyrant" on you... Probably should not have done it publicly...  I also told you that I may have misinterpreted your posts , and I apologized if that was the case. 

Perhaps I should have done so publicly but I thought it best to let things settle. My error again.

I thought I offered you some help regarding your road issue and hoped it truly helped you.  I was told to read a book called Russel on Roads... That is where the info came from.  Reading exerts, I really think my info will help you immensely.  But I may not fully understand your issue.

The fact of the matter is we seem to not communicate so well with each other.  That is why I chose not to meet with you.  I think we seem to not understand each other and we seem to clash.  No benefit to both of us... Just anxiety.

PLEASE... No dis-respect intended...  I just don't get where you are going with your comments.  Given my experience surrounding this area, I understand things differently. I guess this is why I get so touchy.

I am content with my land in Trent Hills and was not looking at it as a business.  Just to save money and perhaps to save even more doing my research here.  I have no interest in this board now other than learning more and helping others along the way.

Rob,  We talked about my issues before and how they should be resolved.  You encouraged me to speak out.  I feel as though in doing so, I have hurt others.  Please remove me from this board.  I feel as though I have done more harm than good.

BTW.  I was not speaking out about (beer) banter... Just inferences and innuendo that could hurt people in this community including myself.

Tyerant - OUT

Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: DRD on February 11, 2013, 04:04:41 AM
A few years ago there was talk of a gathering so we could all meet each other and talk "shop". I think that would be a great idea, (harder to insult somebody you know) and at worst duke it out.

Anybody else interested??

Rob, not having met you. Would this be an option?

Doug
Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: Dave2 on February 11, 2013, 12:03:30 PM
A few years ago there was talk of a gathering so we could all meet each other and talk "shop". I think that would be a great idea, (harder to insult somebody you know) and at worst duke it out.

Anybody else interested??

Rob, not having met you. Would this be an option? Doug

Doug:

I tried to organize the last one but it was a bit of a flop.  I have always felt meeting fellow potential bidders was a good idea especially in this case where there is a question of the appropriate posting tradeoffs between social banter and efficiency of presenting advice in a well organized and crisp manner.  

There seems to be a concern in some quarters that this type of meeting has an underlying purpose to organize or fix tax sales but trust me there is no way.  There are just too many players.  More importantly it helps set the stage for private member dialogue on issues that are too personal to post in a public forum.  

The other big advantage is for members who have day jobs and cannot get to a tax sale and meet other bidders.  

At the last time the most central location seemed to be up by the airport; and unfortunately where we had it at Williams Coffee Pub is no longer there.  You want to have it prior to the summer but after bad winter travel period so mid April to Mid May or September or October were felt best last time. Hope this helps.  
Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: Rob on February 11, 2013, 01:51:43 PM

I hate to see folks that were as frustrated as I was and get banned for supporting me. Rob, Please re consider.


I did reconsider then immediately the trolling started again.  Now he has a 100 day ban.
Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: Ronster on February 11, 2013, 10:04:47 PM
Just a simple post of support to keep things positive, or at least respectful.  I for one, enjoy the banter, and appreciate the advice and opinions of all.
Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: tyerant on February 14, 2013, 01:13:28 AM

I hate to see folks that were as frustrated as I was and get banned for supporting me. Rob, Please re consider.


I did reconsider then immediately the trolling started again.  Now he has a 100 day ban.

Thanks Rob for your consideration... Just didn't want a ban to happen related to anything related to supporting my comments.  I try to stay within the rules and respect your authority to enforce them.
Title: Re: Trent Hills - Watch the high flooding Risk
Post by: g2020 on February 14, 2013, 12:37:15 PM
Good to see you back tyerant. Lots of fun.