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Tax Sale Forum => General => Topic started by: mesha on February 03, 2008, 07:44:48 PM

Title: Quinte West-Schriver Road
Post by: mesha on February 03, 2008, 07:44:48 PM
City of Quinte West-Lot 22 Con 4 Murray Township.

I was wondering if anyone had any more information on this property.  I know it is landlocked.  It looks like crown land surrounds it on one side, has anyone ever tried to get a road allowance on crown land?
Title: Re: Quinte West-Schriver Road
Post by: Jayz on February 03, 2008, 08:49:05 PM
City of Quinte West-Lot 22 Con 4 Murray Township.

I was wondering if anyone had any more information on this property.  I know it is landlocked.  It looks like crown land surrounds it on one side, has anyone ever tried to get a road allowance on crown land?

If you look at the aerial photo, there is apparently a "road" leads to the property. Doesn't it count when it comes to applying for a building permit?
Title: Re: Quinte West-Schriver Road
Post by: mesha on February 03, 2008, 10:24:35 PM
It's a little confusing as the property is listed as 2 Schiver road and the road that is unopened is actually Coltmann Road.  I guess another question is, is it costly or even possible to have an unopened road opened?  Also wondering about the costs of running hydro to your property?
Title: Re: Quinte West-Schriver Road
Post by: Dave2 on February 09, 2008, 09:26:32 PM
Warning this looks like an unregistered landfill site.  It is apparently under MOE order
Title: Re: Quinte West-Schriver Road
Post by: Pawel on February 10, 2008, 10:44:53 PM
Warning this looks like an unregistered landfill site.  It is apparently under MOE order

Do you have a source? or is this word of mouth?
Title: Re: Quinte West-Schriver Road
Post by: worldjohn on February 12, 2008, 06:34:03 AM
There is a certificate registered against the property from the ministry of the enviroment.  The law society of upper canada and the director of legal aid are listed as execution creditors. My interpretation  is that is one of those dreaded crown liens.  Hence danger and stay away.  Anybody concur or disagree
Title: Re: Quinte West-Schriver Road
Post by: mesha on February 18, 2008, 11:48:54 PM
There are over 40,000 tires on the property that the ministry has a certificate on.  I stopped my research there so I am unsure of the circumstances of the execution creditors.
Title: Re: Quinte West-Schriver Road
Post by: Pfm1011 on February 20, 2008, 01:32:54 PM
Wow   40000 tires...at 200 each new  ...the lands worth $ 8,000,000.   I can start a business turning tires into planters  for the end of country driveways ;D
Title: Re: Quinte West-Schriver Road
Post by: Jayz on February 20, 2008, 05:24:54 PM
Interesting. Even they are used tires, you still can sell them to tire recyclers to make some money  :). Question is, who owns them? do you own them if you win the title of the land? or should you ask whoever the owner is to remove those tires from your property, if that doesn't happen then they become yours?
Title: Re: Quinte West-Schriver Road
Post by: Pfm1011 on February 20, 2008, 10:20:30 PM
I was kidding....The toxic waste will cost hundreds of thousands  to clean as tires leach oil..... And if you are real lucky someone will burn them for you making the clean up costs millions
Title: Re: Quinte West-Schriver Road
Post by: Jayz on February 21, 2008, 02:11:44 AM
Tires don't necessarily come with oil. I know people who recycle used tires. Has anyone see the property with tires on? How's the condition? I drove by the other day but couldn't even get close 'cause it's all covered by snow. No maintained roads around.
Title: Re: Quinte West-Schriver Road
Post by: mesha on February 23, 2008, 04:44:17 PM
According to the guy at the Ministry the majority of them are buried.  We walked the land and it appears he is right because all we could see if  a few piles which of course don't add up to the Ministry's 40,000.  The question is where are they buried and of course the clean up costs. 
Title: Re: Quinte West-Schriver Road
Post by: worldjohn on February 23, 2008, 07:05:44 PM
Who cares about the tires. I know people that use tires, rammed with earth to build amazing,  sustainable housing, called earthships.  What about those certificates from the law society of upper canada and from legal aid.  My interpretation is those are crown liens?  But does anybody know for sure?
Title: Re: Quinte West-Schriver Road
Post by: Jayz on February 23, 2008, 08:08:23 PM
My interpretation is those certificates have something to do with those tires. You guys are right - tire recyclers don't pay for used tires but get paid to recycle tires at $1.5 each tire normally.
Title: Re: Quinte West-Schriver Road
Post by: Frank on February 24, 2008, 03:39:28 AM
My interpretation is those certificates have something to do with those tires. You guys are right - tire recyclers don't pay for used tires but get paid to recycle tires at $1.5 each tire normally.

Right, and the problem is that some unscrupulous ones never do anything with them, except bury them on land such as this, and then walk away with cash in their pockets.
Title: Re: Quinte West-Schriver Road
Post by: iamcdn on February 26, 2008, 06:11:51 PM
There is a certificate registered against the property from the ministry of the enviroment.  The law society of upper canada and the director of legal aid are listed as execution creditors. My interpretation  is that is one of those dreaded crown liens.  Hence danger and stay away.  Anybody concur or disagree


Can anyone let me know where I can get a copy of the certificate and the details from the ministry?
Title: Re: Quinte West-Schriver Road
Post by: Frank on February 26, 2008, 08:39:10 PM
There is a certificate registered against the property from the ministry of the enviroment.  The law society of upper canada and the director of legal aid are listed as execution creditors. My interpretation  is that is one of those dreaded crown liens.  Hence danger and stay away.  Anybody concur or disagree


Can anyone let me know where I can get a copy of the certificate and the details from the ministry?

I did discover - through a previous property search -  that Legal aid is not a crown agency, that while the law society receives most of its funding for legal aid from the Province, it is still considered a private agency which controls its own destiny, and therefore that lien would disappear.  Not so for the Ministry of Environment - that one is definitely crown.   The owner of the proper likely got legal aid to fight off the ministry (or a spouse), and since he/she has real property assets, then the amount of subsidy gets registered on title as a lien.
Title: Re: Quinte West-Schriver Road
Post by: Jayz on February 26, 2008, 10:49:31 PM
Whoever wins it, I offer to accept your 40,000 tires free of charge provided they are digged out and delivered to me here in Toronto.  ;D
Title: Re: Quinte West-Schriver Road
Post by: Jayz on February 27, 2008, 08:30:00 PM
I spoke with the city and the city wouldn't disclose any info about the certificate. I spoke with MOEE, the person who looks after that area wasn't in the office and won't be back soon. I was wondering what the chance is that the city or MOEE funds or supports whoever purchases this land to clean up the mess. The logic behind this is, if no one purchases this property it will eventually becomes city or crown land then the city or MOEE will still have to deal with this problem. Does anyone who talked with the city or MOEE before have any info or anyone have similar experience to share? 
Title: Re: Quinte West-Schriver Road
Post by: iamcdn on February 27, 2008, 08:40:56 PM
The city will not be respossible for anything with regards to the sale.  "Buyer beware"  Your question with regards to the MOEE is a good one and I haven't been able to get anything out of them yet.

The other issue as mentioned before is the hydro.  If you want to run the line you are looking at $50k to $75k.  You could get something back if someone hooks up on that run within the next 5 years but it's highly unlikely due to the area and surrounding land.
Title: Re: Quinte West-Schriver Road
Post by: Jayz on March 05, 2008, 02:11:02 AM
Anyone has anything about the result?
Title: Re: Quinte West-Schriver Road
Post by: Pfm1011 on March 06, 2008, 12:24:28 AM
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Shriver rd   3 bids   21000  high
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Title: Re: Quinte West-Schriver Road
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