Cochrane

[imz]

Can anyone out there save me some time??

Is this land in Cochrane pretty much swamp land?  landlocked perhaps?

has anyone done any research on this that they wish to share?
anyone found it on Google maps?

thanks much

[propertyz]

went to check out the land in cochrane...pretty much swamp lol...wouldnt sell in a million years...could only be used to harvest cattails if theres a market for it ??

[imz]

so 156 views of my question and no one has anything to say??
nothing?

Frank?  PFM?  where are all the regulars??

methinks this just might be a nice piece of land??
I just don't think i have the time or patience to drive all the way up there....

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i only got one comment from propertyz...and i'm presuming it to be a disingenous remark...
 a newbie.. who never posts... claims he went to see the land... Really now??
you drove all the way up there to just view the land???
or are you just saying that to spread some misinformation because you want to be the only one to bid on it?? 

your comments don't seem very genuine... thanks anyway

[speedfreeksteve]

You have to take EVERYTHING you read on here or anywhere else with a grain of salt.

Myself and many others have posted our assessments on properties, and the ones that I have seen myself were all true, although differing opinions to the quality of a piece of land can come into play since it's a subjective thing sometimes.

My main point is, I don't think most people on here would buy a piece of land sight unseen regardless. If you want to take a gamble, that's your call. Of course you could probably just come out and ask the municipality if the land is crap, and hope that they are both honest and have knowledge about the land in question.

If you just want a piece of land somewhere that isn't as big an ordeal to look at, you can wait for something closer to come up.. there's always another tax sale.

[Frank]

Frank?  PFM?  where are all the regulars??

methinks this just might be a nice piece of land??
I just don't think i have the time or patience to drive all the way up there....

your comments don't seem very genuine... thanks anyway

My deepest apologies, I had no idea that your original question was directed at me.  I have no interest in cochrane, so I didn't give it a second look.  I understand your angst, since the sale is on Tuesday, and no one has provided you with a deeper understanding of the lands in question...nor bothered to make the trip up there on your behalf. 

I visited the Town's web-site...nothing...they did ask you to call them in their ad.

I checked it out on claimaps and found that the first property (Clute) is in the middle of nowhere, and seems to be low lying...Got a helicopter.

The second one (Glackmeyer) appears to be high ground from the elevation markings, and it does show a trail of some sort going though it...perhaps a quad or snowmobile trail...good for winter camping I suppose.

The third is in (LaMarche) appears to be about 1/2 marsh...got a helicopter?

I would definitely bid on these properties...site unseen...good luck with that then. 

[farrouk]

I did alot of analysis of remote sensing data at university and just from looking at Google earth you can be 95% certian of the existance of swamp. The problem is when the area is not covered by hi rez imagery as often happens you have to use other methods, Topo maps, Clain map, MNR land use maps ect. Sometimes the planning dept might throw you a freebee. I have only bought one property site un-seen and it worked out OK but I took a calculated risk. Not too many of us are interested in Cochrane so you are more likely to get unbias advice than Muskoka. I make it a point not to mislead anyone on this board so if I'm interested in a property I usually say nothing.

[Dave2]

IMZ:

The problem all of us have is that Cochrane like a number of the far northern properties will be somewhat of a crap shoot.  Read the other posts.  There are a lot of more knowledgeable and
technically skilled people then me who frequent this website but as soon as you move from the counties of southern ontario to the districts of northern ontario the data base information will not necessarily be of the same quality.  We all have the same problem unless like a few members of this board we are resident in the great white north (the town's symbol of a polar bear is as good a comment as anyone can make.). 

You also have to ask yourself a basic question.  If you are buying up north you had better have a reason.    A long ago eventually discraced member of the wall street elite said it best.  Any fool can buy a company the key is your ability to sell or words to that effect. 

We are all volunteers and also competitors here.  We generally will warn people off if it is complete garbage or has a high watch it factor.  As Farrouk said if we find a special value in a property we may choose not to share it.   Of course if you are a hunter marsh is maybe what you want.

Bill Cosby said it best " "Different strokes for different folks'.

Long term I recommend you stay awhile and contribute.  There are facilities on this board for private messages and if you contribute you might get some private help. 

Coming back to Cochrane let's see how the bids go.  We will know from the bids how many were interested and possibly what they were after.  If I see that another McMaster grad
bid a high price for it I will figure there is mayber something under that swamp that might interest
blondes. 
 
Dave2

[Pfm1011]

lack of response..I have no interest whatsoever in northern land and I never even read the ad for it.  1 acre or 1000 acres in cochrane is worth nothing to me...polar bears ..no thanks   no interest..therefore no response 

[Frank]

lack of response..I have no interest whatsoever in northern land and I never even read the ad for it.  1 acre or 1000 acres in cochrane is worth nothing to me...polar bears ..no thanks   no interest..therefore no response 

PFM....your gonna love this one.  This weeks gazette has an add for three properties in Moonbeam....yup, just up the road from Cochrane.  check it out.  I'm sure that imz will be demanding info. on it, so let's get geared up and ready to go. 

anyone for a road trip?

[Frank]

More on Moonbeam

I can hardly contain myself....they have an actual UFO parked on the lawn in front of the visitors information centre.    Moonbeam...population 1201.

lol

[imz]

thanks guys  (regulars)

i just found it curious that no one had absolutely anything to say...
i know these boards are usually buzzing...

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most dissapointing was the comment by propertz
just a lot of bs.

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and i am not "demanding" any information... but if someone had anything to share...
i enjoy reading and appreciate the info...

cheers,

[Dave2]

Frank:

I confess you found my secret.  It is my transportation when I want to buy land referenced on this URL.

http://www.moonshop.com/

I was keeping it up in Moonbeam so no one would notice.  Who would have believed that a local
tax sale would let my secret out.  At US$20.00 an acre I feel it is a bargain. 

I was trying to assemble the land to beat the rush.   One thing I can confirm that when you visit your property up there "earth light"really impresses blondes.

Dave2

[Pfm1011]

land on the moon and passports from Sealand..equal quality investments

[Dave2]

Hey PFM:  Don't give Moonbeam too hard a time:

An organization we all love to hate when we are successful as a result of this forum thinks
Moonbeam was (Will be?) a hot spot in 2009.  Quoting directly from their post:

"In the Township of Moonbeam, waterfront values have increased by approximately 7 per cent for the 2009 tax year."

http://www.mpac.ca/pages_english/media/news_timmins.asp

Separately to quel a rumour I understand that is making the rounds, no the photograph on the moonbeam website is not of me but I believe of the town chauffeur. (They treat people well if you are crazy enough to invest in their town.)

http://www.moonbeam.ca/

enjoy

Dave2

[Dave2]

lack of response..I have no interest whatsoever in northern land and I never even read the ad for it.  1 acre or 1000 acres in cochrane is worth nothing to me...polar bears ..no thanks   no interest..therefore no response  

PFM....your gonna love this one.  This weeks gazette has an add for three properties in Moonbeam....yup, just up the road from Cochrane.  check it out.  I'm sure that imz will be demanding info. on it, so let's get geared up and ready to go.  

anyone for a road trip?

A couple of years ago I got some flack from few people on this board for buying tax sale  property way up north. There was a reason but I didn't want to get too much competition so I laid low.  I can now share why. I will ask this  guy   if he might want to change his mind about that road trip]

Gee I wonder if any of those miners who make over $100,000 a year might want some recreational or living property that has big acreage close to town.

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Detour Mine construction gives town economic boost

By: Liz Cowan

Cochrane is bracing for a population growth of 50 per cent in the next two years due to Detour Gold's mine project 180 kilometres north of the town.

The Town of Cochrane has sold all of its municipal residential lots, rental units are scarce and there is hardly any vacant office space available.
But Mayor Peter Politis welcomes the growth and "good" problems the community is experiencing due to Detour Gold's mine construction project, 180 kilometres northeast of Cochrane.
?Our challenge is something we never thought we would ask ourselves ? do we expand up or out,? he said.
The $1.2-billion construction project is underway at Detour Lake Mine and is expected to create more than 1,000 direct jobs. Once the mine is operational in 2013, it is expected that 500 people will be employed.

?We will be doubling the economic impact on the community from the (Detour) workforce from $126 million to $256 million,? said Politis. ?We are looking at a 50 per cent population increase in the next two years and if that happens we will be the second largest community in the region after Timmins.?
Currently, the town's population is about 5,500.
Cochrane CAO Jean Pierre Ouellette said the town is ?cleaned out? of its municipal residential lots but the municipality is working with a developer on a proposed residential subdivision in the northeast part of town.
?There are two farm lots there that are still part of the urban centre so development will expand that way,? he said. ?I's hard to determine how many extra homes we will be needing. The subdivision is for 400 homes but it will be done in a phased approach with 50 at a time.?

Sheldon Rachuk, Detour's director of procurement, contracts and logistics, said the company is currently constructing an eight-plex and three single family homes. There are plans in the immediate future for six more single family dwellings.
?These are primarily for our senior management coming in and also to allow a transitional home for our employees while they decide what they will buy or build,? he said. ?But until we finalize all our recruiting, we will not know where the workforce is coming from. Our work schedule is one week on and one week off so regional people may be interested and whether that translates into homes being constructed in Cochrane, we really can't say.?
Currently, there is a shortage of rental units and housing prices are starting to rise. Local real estate agent Miriam Hutchinson, of Realty Networks Inc. Brokerage, said winter is usually a slow time of year for the industry in Cochrane but it has been quite active this season.

?It really has been chaotic,? she said. ?It's not so much new people moving in right now but locals are buying bigger homes or going from rentals to purchasing their first place. The commercial side has always been pretty dead but it has really been heating up.?
Detour will be constructing its regional office this year in Cochrane and it is in the process of signing a contract with SGS to open a lab facility to support the mine requirements. The commercial facility, which will be available to other customers, will add 30 new jobs.
The mayor said the town is in the process of structuring an industrial park and a few locations are being looked at.
?Land for industry and residential homes isn't really the problem,? Politis said. "We could grow to 250,000 easily. It's the money involved in servicing the land.?
Warehouse space in the town is currently hard to find since freight is being shipped directly to Cochrane for the mine project. Vacant office space is in great demand and the only option may soon be to build.
The provincial government recently announced $2 million in funding through the Northern Ontario Heritage Fund Corp. (NOHFC) to construct an access road connecting the mine to Ontario Northland's rail facilities in the town. It will create 30 construction jobs and be completed the end of next year.

Upgrades to Cochrane's airport, also through $700,000 in NOHFC funding, include a new 7,000-square foot heated hangar for Sky Wrench Inc., an expansion of the terminal building and main area for parking and loading aircraft, improving the runway and taxiway and upgrading navigational aids and ground services.
The mayor said about 360 businesses in the community are involved with Detour in supplying goods or services and the mining company has been good in giving them the opportunity to compete.
?We have three hardware stores in town and all of them are going full tilt servicing the mine and its needs,? Politis said. ?I know some businesses have hired more staff.?
Placer Dome operated Detour Lake Mine from 1983 to 1999 but Ouellette said the economic impact on Cochrane during that time period was more indirect.
?They were an existing company and had operations in Timmins so what we saw then was just ancillary jobs coming to the town,? he said. ?The community celebrated its 100th anniversary last year and we are saying this growth happening now is 100 years in the making. We never saw this kind of development occur before.?[/color][/b]