Ramara Sale info

[surveysays]

Lot 29, Plan 438, Twp Ramara (formerly Twp Mara)
PIN 58713-0241(LT)

- picked up the package (free) from Twp office in Brechin - very friendly and helpful.

It's a back-Lot (about 60 x 180 +/-) on an older plan of subdivision adjacent to Dalrymple Lake

see Google maps:
http://tinyurl.com/36gmrq

Sunrise Drive was surveyed right out to Mara/Carden Boundary Line, but only assumed in part - which is why Google only shows it going a short distance east from Sylvan Glen - Lot 29 fronts on the unassumed portion of Sunrise Drive (about 250' west from the town line)

Bottom line is that the lot has no road access at present therefore no building permit can be issued.  The lady at the Twp office said a building permit could be issued if the purchaser "built a road to Twp standards - to be assumed" (her words) - subject to Conservation Authority etc. etc.

I went and had a look:  the area is a bit run-down and some of the lots are low-lying and water-logged - I wasn't able to eyeball Lot 29 due to access, but can extrapolate/guess from driving around that it likely high and dry (no guarantees)

I won't be bidding - just thought I'd have a look because it's close by.

[Frank]

Thanks Survey - that saves me a trip.  I won't be there either. 

[cobra786]

I am a new member of this forum. Went to see the property in Ramara. True! Does seem like a Run-down area with absolutely no access situation. Some questions:
1) Will the town ever be interested in finishing that portion of the road on their own.
2) Why do you guys think its not worth it, being so close from Whitby?
3) What would be a good place to look at for lake front lots nearby Toronto (1-2 hours).

I have read some of the views shared by others and was inspired. thanks!
A

[Frank]

Municipalities are not in the habit, these days, of building roads for you.  They require that you do it.  If this lot had water frontage then there probably wouldn't be a problem getting a building permit, but since it is a 'back-lot' then it must have municipal road frontage for one. 

If you have to build a road 250 feet long through low lying area, you must build it to Town standards.  Then you have the issue of whether the conservation authority will even allow the road to be built since you would be removing flood-plane.  This could be a very expensive proposition, and therefore you should regard this lot as nothing more than a campground (tents) for the time being.  If there are other lots that could be buildable and you could get the owners to co-operate in the road building, then you might reduce your costs - but from the sounds of it this might be the only one that is worth anything. 

You have to ask yourself, first and foremost, why this property is up for tax sale.  In 99.9% of the cases the property is severely handicapped, and the current owner has come to that realization and walked from it.

[armageddon2007]

Correction: My apologies. The comment made previously applied to the Evantural tax sale, not Ramara.  Therefore I have deleted it.

[Frank]

I was kinda wondering what your point was, since the toxic spill on the Northlanders is at least 500 kms from Ramara.  Didn't make a lot of sense.

[speedfreeksteve]

I am a new member of this forum. Went to see the property in Ramara. True! Does seem like a Run-down area with absolutely no access situation. Some questions:
1) Will the town ever be interested in finishing that portion of the road on their own.
2) Why do you guys think its not worth it, being so close from Whitby?
3) What would be a good place to look at for lake front lots nearby Toronto (1-2 hours).

I have read some of the views shared by others and was inspired. thanks!
A

1) It's absolutely doubtful that a town is going to do anyone a favour and build a road for them.

2) How is being close to Whitby in any way good? I wish Whitby was abit further from Toronto personally. Don't want my kid anywhere near the crystal meth addicts in that neck of the woods. I know someone that is a nurse there and sees it everyday.

3) Lakefront lots nearby Toronto.. this months Cottage Life magazine has an excellent article on that issue. If you're looking at spending under $100000 for decent land then you're best bet is looking towards Kingston. 1 acre waterfront lots 1-2 hours away North or Northwest of the city range from $80000-$1.2 million. I paid just over $20,000 for my 1 acre waterfront that's 2.5 hours from Toronto, and that land would be worth 6 times that amount now even if I hadn't built a thing on it.